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Confidence
in the Dharma #1
An interview with HH Rangjung Rigpe Dorje,
16th Gyalwa Karmapa, 1980.
Interviewer
: This is your third tour to America. Do you have any observations
you would like to share about it, and about the growth of
the Dharma in the United States?
HH
: The responsibility of the teacher is to always give the
teachings. It doesn't matter that only a short time has
passed, or a long time has passed; what matters is that
the teachings are continuously given. Sometimes it may seem
to be more appropriate to teach because most people are
at leisure and have a lot of time, and it appears to be
a good time to give teachings. Maybe at other times it may
appear that the teachings should not be given because people
are busy and perhaps they are not interested. It is important
not to discriminate in this way as to time or to place,
but to make the teachings constantly available. If only
one person is interested, the teaching must be made available.
Whether there are just a few people, hundreds of people,
or even millions of people interested, the Dharma teaching
must go on without any sense of satisfaction or discouragement.
The Dharma teaching must continue at all times, transcending
the appearances of the time.
Another situation that might arise is that because of time
or what we may have done or accomplished, we feel that maybe
now we should stop practicing or listening to teachings.
This is not the Dharma path. You keep going. That is the
bodhisattva's way. As long as it benefits even one being
you have to, without any sense of discouragement, go on.
If you have 100 percent dedication and confidence in the
teachings, then every living situation can be a part of
the practice. You can be living the practice instead of
just doing it. Regarding the establishment of the Dharma
anywhere, it happens as a result of what takes place on
an individual basis; it is the practitioner's responsibility.
It is understanding the Dharma properly, respecting the
truth of Karma, the truth of cause and effect. One respects
the truth of the teachings and knows that this is something
that one must live up to and preserve. But if beings fail
to respect the truth of the teachings, or the truth of cause
and effect, which is also the truth of the teachings, then
that would not further the establishment of the Dharma.
More
than anything I think one problem Westerners in the Dharma
face is the desire to achieve ultimate spiritual realization
in this life, coupled with the fact that they must work
full-time in the world at various time-consuming careers.
How can one handle this life situation and travel the Mahamudra
path effectively? It has been said that action can also
be meditation. Could you please clarify this?
H.H.:
We have for many, many lifetimes been caught up in the samsaric
existence because of fascination with our habitual patterns,
and are compelled for this reason to continue the patterns
in the same way that we had in the past. At this time in
our lives, as a result of whatever virtuous actions that
we have formerly performed, some degree of awakening has
arisen. A very precious waking state has come about in our
consciousness, and that is our connection with the Dharma.
Once we are connected with the Dharma in such a way that
we have some understanding, we also have some sense of direction
as to where we are going. It is like wanting to go to California.
You know that there is a particular train, and that train
takes you to California. You have that understanding. Then
it becomes a matter of individual realization of the need,
the urgent need perhaps, to get to California. Then there
is boarding the train. It is possible for one to do such
a thing, to make the decision, "Yes, this is it, I
am going to travel."
And there is the greater possibility that you will get to
California once you have boarded the train. And maybe there
are certain possibilities of your not getting there, of
something happening on the way. And if something happens
on the way, an accident or something, you know that the
possibilities of getting to California are still there.
You haven't yet reached it, but you have some sense of direction
as far as your knowing that it is possible to get there.
And this is, one could say, like the blessings of the Dharma:
that even though one is not able to realize enlightenment
in one lifetime, the blessings of the practice and the Dharma
are continuous. There is a sense of optimism about the possibilities
of getting to California, even though you haven't arrived.
That is the same situation that takes place in your Dharma
life. The blessings continue, even though you could not
attain the experience of enlightenment in this lifetime.
If you have a proper direction, in the state of the Bardo,
there occurs what is like the meeting of the mother and
son. It is an opportunity to rely on your own ability to
understand and to realize, and utilize the Dharma blessings
at that moment in the Bardo in order to recognize the "mother,"
so to speak. Your experience of clear light takes place.
And realization is very much possible. This has been witnessed
by the teaching and is guaranteed by the teaching. It is
definitely possible for people to experience that sort of
thing.
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